“Houston (well, Dallas), We have a major problem”- FLOYD BORING IN TEXAS ON 11/22/63?!?!?!?!?

“Houston (well, Dallas), We have a major problem”- FLOYD BORING IN TEXAS ON 11/22/63?!?!?!?!? [with 1/6/15 update* and another update 1/9/15 **]

[click on all images to enlarge]

http://archiveblog.jfklibrary.org/2011/10/getting-help-with-identifications/

“Getting Help with Identifications”

“Former Secret Service agent Clint Hill sits down with Kennedy Library metadata catalogers working on our digitization project. During the administration, Mr. Hill was assigned to protect Jacqueline Kennedy, and he became a nationally recognized figure because of his quick action during the events of November 22, 1963. Mr. Hill collaborated with former Secret Service agent Gerald Blaine and writer Lisa McCubbin (in photograph, on Mr. Hill’s left) on the recent book The Kennedy Detail. While here to do research for his own upcoming book with Ms. McCubbin on his experiences guarding Mrs. Kennedy, Mr. Hill took the time to help our archivists and metadata catalogers with some of the unknown people and places in our photographic holdings.” For the record, out of the thousands of photographs released (including the many hundreds released the past couple years with Clint Hill’s help), I could not find even one misidentification of any agent. Hill was spot-on in this regard.

OFFICIALLY speaking, Floyd Boring, the number two agent of the White House Detail and the official planner of the Texas trip from the Secret Service point-of-view, was at home in Maryland when the assassination happened. However, in newly-released photographs from the JFK Library (and aided in identifications by none other than Clint Hill), agent Boring is depicted by Air Force One as JFK’s casket is being transported up the stairway to the plane!

Boring- at home in Maryland- “I was off duty and was washing windows at the house”:

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/oralhist/boring.htm

“He was not with President Kennedy’s Secret Service detail in Dallas when Kennedy was assassinated.”:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/07/us/07boring.html?_r=0

and

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKOH-FMB-01.aspx

and (“I didn’t have anything to do with it, and I don’t know anything”-?!)

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=67556

and see ESPECIALLY (Boring also claimed that “he had never spoken with anyone at all in the Secret Service about any aspect of the Kennedy assassination”, another statement that is very hard to swallow, especially seeing that Boring founded the Retired Secret Service Agent’s Association in 1969…Boring initially claimed that his activities on 11/22/63 “were limited to going directly from his home to Andrews AFB to meet the (new) President 11—and that he escorted President Johnson on his helicopter from Andrews to the White House, after which he went directly home”; the latter part of this statement, that Boring went directly home, is NOT backed up by the documentary record, nor by Boring’s own admitted actions. ):

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/palamara/boring_arrb.html

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PHOTOGRAPHS JUST RELEASED IN DIGITAL FORM IN THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS!

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKWHP-ST-527-7-63.aspx

ST-527-7-63. Transfer of President John F. Kennedy’s Casket to Air Force One

Accession Number: ST-527-7-63

Title: ST-527-7-63. Transfer of President John F. Kennedy’s Casket to Air Force One

Date(s) of Materials: 22 November 1963

Photographer:

  • Stoughton, Cecil W. (Cecil William), 1920-2008

Description: Officials prepare to transfer President John F. Kennedy’s casket to Air Force One at Love Field in Dallas, Texas. Those pictured include: First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy; physician to President Kennedy, Admiral Dr. George G. Burkley; Special Assistants to President Kennedy, Dave Powers and Kenneth P. O’Donnell; President Kennedy’s Personal Secretary, Evelyn Lincoln; Mrs. Kennedy’s Press Secretary, Pamela Turnure; White House Secret Service agents, Roy Kellerman and Floyd Boring.

Physical Description: 1 negative (black-and-white; 35 mm)

Media Type:

  • Negative

Subject(s):

  • Death

Person(s):

  • Boring, Floyd M., 1915-2008
  • Burkley, George G. (George Gregory), 1902-1991
  • Kellerman, Roy
  • Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963
  • Lincoln, Evelyn (Evelyn Norton), 1909-1995
  • O’Donnell, Kenneth (Kenneth P.), 1924-1977
  • Onassis, Jacqueline Kennedy, 1929-1994
  • Powers, Dave (David Francis), 1912-1998
  • Turnure, Pamela, 1937-

Organization(s):

  • Dallas Love Field

Place(s):

  • Dallas (Tex.)
  • Texas

Folder Title:

  • Trip to Texas: Parkland Hospital (exterior); President’s limousine; Love Field, President’s body borne onto Air Force One

Series Name:

  • Cecil Stoughton (Office of the Military Aide to the President).

Series Number: 02.

Collection:

  • White House Photographs

Copyright Status: Public Domain

Credit Line: Cecil Stoughton. White House Photographs. John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, Boston

Digital Identifier: JFKWHP-ST-527-7-63

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http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKWHP-ST-527-14-63.aspx

ST-527-14-63. First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy Boards Air Force One at Love Field

Accession Number: ST-527-14-63

Title: ST-527-14-63. First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy Boards Air Force One at Love Field

Date(s) of Materials: 22 November 1963

Photographer:

  • Stoughton, Cecil W. (Cecil William), 1920-2008

Description: First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy boards Air Force One at Love Field in Dallas, Texas, following the transfer of President John F. Kennedy’s casket to the airplane. Also pictured: Secretary to Mrs. Kennedy, Mary Gallagher; Special Assistants to President Kennedy, Larry O’Brien, Kenneth P. O’Donnell, and Dave Powers; Military Aide to President Kennedy, General Chester V. Clifton; White House Secret Service agent, Floyd Boring.

Physical Description: 1 negative (black-and-white; 35 mm)

Media Type:

  • Negative

Subject(s):

  • Death

Person(s):

  • Boring, Floyd M., 1915-2008
  • Clifton, Chester V. (Chester Victor), 1913-1991
  • Gallagher, Mary Barelli, 1926-
  • O’Brien, Lawrence F. (Lawrence Francis), 1917-1990
  • O’Donnell, Kenneth (Kenneth P.), 1924-1977
  • Onassis, Jacqueline Kennedy, 1929-1994
  • Powers, Dave (David Francis), 1912-1998

Organization(s):

  • Dallas Love Field

Place(s):

  • Dallas (Tex.)
  • Texas

Folder Title:

  • Trip to Texas: Parkland Hospital (exterior); President’s limousine; Love Field, President’s body borne onto Air Force One

Series Name:

  • Cecil Stoughton (Office of the Military Aide to the President).

Series Number: 02.

Collection:

  • White House Photographs

Copyright Status: Public Domain

Credit Line: Cecil Stoughton. White House Photographs. John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, Boston

Digital Identifier: JFKWHP-ST-527-14-63

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http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKWHP-ST-527-13-63.aspx

ST-527-13-63. Transfer of President John F. Kennedy’s Casket to Air Force One

Accession Number: ST-527-13-63

Title: ST-527-13-63. Transfer of President John F. Kennedy’s Casket to Air Force One

Date(s) of Materials: 22 November 1963

Photographer:

  • Stoughton, Cecil W. (Cecil William), 1920-2008

Description: President John F. Kennedy’s casket is transferred to Air Force One at Love Field in Dallas, Texas. Those pictured include: physician to President Kennedy, Admiral Dr. George G. Burkley; Secretary to First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy, Mary Gallagher; Military Aide to President Kennedy, General Chester V. Clifton; Special Assistants to President Kennedy, Kenneth P. O’Donnell and Dave Powers; White House Secret Service agents, Ernie Olsson, Dick Johnsen, Floyd Boring, and Paul Landis.

Physical Description: 1 negative (black-and-white; 35 mm)

Media Type:

  • Negative

Subject(s):

  • Death

Person(s):

  • Boring, Floyd M., 1915-2008
  • Burkley, George G. (George Gregory), 1902-1991
  • Clifton, Chester V. (Chester Victor), 1913-1991
  • Gallagher, Mary Barelli, 1926-
  • Johnsen, Richard Edwin, 1934-2010
  • Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963
  • Landis, Paul E. (Paul Elwood), 1935?-
  • O’Donnell, Kenneth (Kenneth P.), 1924-1977
  • Olsson, Ernie (Ernest E.), 1932-
  • Powers, Dave (David Francis), 1912-1998

Organization(s):

  • Dallas Love Field

Place(s):

  • Dallas (Tex.)
  • Texas

Folder Title:

  • Trip to Texas: Parkland Hospital (exterior); President’s limousine; Love Field, President’s body borne onto Air Force One

Series Name:

  • Cecil Stoughton (Office of the Military Aide to the President).

Series Number: 02.

Collection:

  • White House Photographs

Copyright Status: Public Domain

Credit Line: Cecil Stoughton. White House Photographs. John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, Boston

Digital Identifier: JFKWHP-ST-527-13-63

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http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKWHP-ST-524-15-63.aspx

ST-524-15-63. Transfer of President John F. Kennedy’s Casket to Ambulance

Accession Number: ST-524-15-63

Title: ST-524-15-63. Transfer of President John F. Kennedy’s Casket to Ambulance

Date(s) of Materials: 22 November 1963

Photographer:

  • Lewis, Dan

Description: President John F. Kennedy’s casket is transferred from Air Force One to a waiting ambulance, following arrival at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland from Dallas, Texas. First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy and Attorney General, Robert F. Kennedy, stand inside hydraulic lift. Also pictured: Military Aide to President Kennedy, General Chester V. Clifton; President Kennedy’s Personal Secretary, Evelyn Lincoln; Special Assistant to President Kennedy, Larry O’Brien; Naval Aide to President Kennedy, Captain Tazewell Shepard; White House Secret Service agents, Floyd Boring, Roy Kellerman, Clint Hill, and Ron Pontius. [Photograph by Dan Lewis]

Physical Description: 1 negative (black-and-white; 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 inches)

Media Type:

  • Negative

Subject(s):

  • Death

Person(s):

  • Boring, Floyd M., 1915-2008
  • Clifton, Chester V. (Chester Victor), 1913-1991
  • Hill, Clint (Clinton J.), 1932-
  • Kellerman, Roy
  • Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963
  • Kennedy, Robert F. (Robert Francis), 1925-1968
  • Lincoln, Evelyn (Evelyn Norton), 1909-1995
  • O’Brien, Lawrence F. (Lawrence Francis), 1917-1990
  • Onassis, Jacqueline Kennedy, 1929-1994
  • Pontius, Ron (Ronald M.)
  • Shepard, Tazewell (Tazewell Taylor), 1921-2013

Organization(s):

  • United States. Department of Defense. Department of the Air Force. Andrews Air Force Base, Maryland. (09/18/1947 – )

Place(s):

  • Maryland

Folder Title:

  • Return to Andrews Air Force Base; President Kennedy’s body placed in ambulance; President Johnson speaks to the nation

Series Name:

  • Cecil Stoughton (Office of the Military Aide to the President).

Series Number: 02.

Collection:

  • White House Photographs

Copyright Status: Public Domain

Credit Line: Cecil Stoughton (Dan Lewis). White House Photographs. John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum, Boston

Digital Identifier: JFKWHP-ST-524-15-63

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TWO RELATED POSTS FROM A YEAR AGO-

Chuck Zboril: NOT BELIEVABLE: here is the proof

One can sometimes not realize the ramifications of something written years ago and literally under their own nose until the right context comes about. Well, the context came last night in the form of a very predictable one-star review from former Secret Service agent (and dear Gerald Blaine friend and colleague) Chuck Zboril. I harken back to a famous line (one of many) in the Oliver Stone movie “JFK”, wherein Kevin Costner , after making a vital point buried in the 26 volumes of the Warren Commission, says (paraphrased) “but the idea gets shuffled around and the point gets lost.”

TURN TO PAGE 121 OF MY OWN BOOK “SURVIVOR’S GUILT”:

“Blaine even erroneously thought [SAIC Gerald] Behn was on the Florida trip, a testament to the frequency of his [Behn’s] trips with the president.” [author’s interview with Blaine 2/7/04]

TURN TO PAGE 294 OF MY OWN BOOK “SURVIVOR’S GUILT”:

“Zboril was sure that Kellerman, who wasn’t even on the Florida trip, was present in Tampa: “I thought it was Roy Kellerman, not Boring, in the car on the Tampa trip…that’s my recollection.” [author’s interview with Chuck Zboril 11/15/95]

Beyond just the general credibility gap issues, by this specific “recollection” of a supervisory agent OTHER THAN FLOYD M. BORING having been on the Florida trip and having rode in the presidential limousine, these two fine gentlemen have, independent of one another, totally impeached ole Blaine’s book “The Kennedy Detail” even further: how can Blaine write so authoritatively that he heard BORING over the radio relaying JFK’s alleged instruction to remove Zboril and Lawton from the rear of the limousine WHEN HE CAN’T EVEN GET THE NAME OF THE ACTUAL AGENT IN CHARGE OF THE TRIP AND RIDING IN THE PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINE CORRECT?

Likewise, how in the world can Zboril vouch for Blaine and his book when he, perhaps in an even worse case of “faulty memory”, ALSO CANNOT GET THE NAME OF THE ACTUAL AGENT IN CHARGE OF THE TRIP AND RIDING IN THE PRESIDENTIAL LIMOUSINE CORRECT…AND BORING WAS THE AGENT WHO ALLEGEDLY RELAYED THIS ORDER/ KIND ANECDOTE/ PRESIDENTIAL WISH (TAKE YOUR PICK) *TO* ZBORIL!

I agree with the headline of your review, Mr. Zboril- YOU are “not believable.”

Postscript: it is a total non-issue about Boring telling the agents to not ride on the rear of the limousine right before the Texas trip. I BELIEVE this indeed happened (page 43 of my book) and I also have no doubt that, had I spoke to many of Blaine’s colleagues circa late 1963-1965 (or perhaps even later), those gentlemen would have “rained on my parade” in droves and told me the fib that JFK ordered the agents off his limo (bottom of page 52 of my book). The point is the credibility of this action by Boring, NOT that Boring performed this action of telling the agents not to ride there (albeit disobeyed by Agent Clint Hill- 4 times- on Main Street in Dallas!). It was only with the advent of time, the release of films, photos, records, the ARRB, the internet, etc., as well as contacting WHITE HOUSE AIDES/ NON-SECRET SERVICE AGENTS like Dave Powers with no horse in the race (no reason to lie and cover-up) that the truth came out. Take your pick: were the agents lying in 1963-1965 or were they lying to myself? Does lying=credibility? Does lying destroy one’s belief in someone’s integrity? You be the judge. My verdict is my book. [please see chapter one of my book for much more]

To blame JFK for his own death is a vulgar, shameful, and cowardly thing to do…repeat that once again, former agents: vulgar, shameful, and cowardly. Thank God I spoke to Gerald Behn on 9/27/92 (6+ months before his death) and, on several occasions between 1993-1997, Floyd Boring, among many others (Win Lawson and Art Godfrey, to name a few more). Otherwise, there would be no reason for Blaine’s 2010 book and the public would just believe the lies from late 1963-1965 instead.

CHUCK ZBORIL AND THE WARREN REPORT:

Chuck Zboril and the Warren Report

Chuck Zboril recently stated on Amazon.Com that Agent David Grant was NOT an advance agent on JFK’s trip to Florida. THE WARREN REPORT even states that Agent David Grant was indeed an advance man on JFK’s trip to Tampa (WR page 445). Zboril thought ASAIC Kellerman, not ASAIC Boring, was on the Florida trip (Palamara, page 294) . Gerald Blaine thought SAIC Gerald Behn, not ASAIC Floyd Boring, was on the Florida trip (Palamara, page 121)….it was ASAIC Floyd Boring alone.

Oops.

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FLOYD BORING IN FRONT OF MARILYN MONROE- JFK’S BIRTHDAY, NY 1962:

FLOYD BORING AND MALCOLM KILDUFF:

FLOYD BORING 11/18/63 TAMPA, FL:

*1/6/15 update:

An astute reader noted the following about the first Love Field photo above:

TLR says:

It looks like the JFK Library has changed the first photograph ID from Boring to Stu Stout. The others still list Boring, though.”

What is strange is Stu Stout, circled, was never an issue- it is the Boring figure, arrow, that is in dispute!

JFKWHP-ST-527-7-63

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/JFKWHP-ST-527-7-63.aspx

** UPDATE 1/9/15: NOW ALL THE FLOYD BORING IDENTIFICATIONS ARE GONE. THE AGENT REMAINS UNIDENTIFIED

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About vincepalamara

Vincent Palamara was born in Pittsburgh and graduated from Duquesne University with a degree in Sociology. Although not even born when President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, Vince brings fresh eyes to an old case. In fact, Vince would go on to study the largely overlooked actions - and inactions - of the United States Secret Service in unprecedented detail, as well as achieving a world's record in the process, having interviewed and corresponded with over 80 former agents (the House Select Committee on Assassinations had the old record of 46 with a 6 million dollar budget and supboena power from Congress), not to mention many surviving family members, White House aides, and even quite a few Parkland and Bethesda medical witnesses for a corresponding project. The result was Survivor's Guilt: The Secret Service & The Failure To Protect President Kennedy. Vince is also the author of the books JFK: From Parkland To Bethesda and The Not-So-Secret Service. All told, Vince has been favorably mentioned in over 120 JFK and Secret Service related books to date (including two whole chapters in Murder in Dealey Plaza, The Secret Service: The Hidden History Of An Enigmatic Agency by Philip Melanson, and the Final Report of the Assassination Records Review Board, among many others), often at length, in the bibliographies, and in the Secret Service - and even medical evidence - areas of these works. Vince has appeared on the History Channel, C-SPAN, A COUP IN CAMELOT, KING KILL '63, THE MAN BEHIND THE SUIT, National Geographic, PCN, BPTV, local cable access television, YouTube, radio, newspapers, print journals, at national conferences, and all over the internet. Also, Vince's original research materials, or copies of said materials, are stored in the National Archives (by request under Deed Of Gift by the ARRB), the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library, Harvard University, the Assassination Archives and Research Center, and the Dallas Public Library. Vince Palamara has become known (as he was dubbed by the History Channel in 2003) "the Secret Service expert." As former JFK Secret Service agent Joe Paolella proclaimed: "You seem to know a lot about the Secret Service, maybe even more than I do!" Agent Dan Emmett calls Vince a Secret Service expert in his new book.
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9 Responses to “Houston (well, Dallas), We have a major problem”- FLOYD BORING IN TEXAS ON 11/22/63?!?!?!?!?

  1. Felix Tomzik says:

    Disturbing IF this is what it “appears” to be. Boring in Dallas but not in the motorcade and he was 2nd in charge! He should have been in the front seat of the Pres limo..not Kellerman.

    • VERY disturbing and quite a blockbuster! Again, this is CLINT HILL AND THE JFK LIBRARY identifying Boring for the entire world to see, not a “theorist” with wishful thinking. Stay tuned for more

  2. TLR says:

    It looks like the JFK Library has changed the first photograph ID from Boring to Stu Stout. The others still list Boring, though.

  3. check my update near the end of the blog

  4. TLR says:

    I’m glad you made screenshots of the original page. I think the LNers must have hammered the Library with complaints, and they just gave in to the pressure.

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